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Bill Maher and Ray Kurzweil Debated AI on a New “Real Time”

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Bill Maher on "Real Time"

The latest "Real Time With Bill Maher" covered AI and dating advice, among other subjects.

By Tobias Carroll

“There’s nobody like you. I want people to understand that.” That was one of the ways in which Bill Maher introduced guest Ray Kurzweil to his audience. Kurzweil is best known for writing about the Singularity before it was a ubiquitous concept in tech circles. He has a new book out this year, The Singularity Is Nearer: When We Merge with AI, and Maher initially took on the role of eliciting expert advice on technological matters.

“The only time I ever thought about AI was the one Spielberg movie I didn’t like,” Maher said — hence bringing Kurzweil on to offer his perspective on the issues surrounding AI and how it might affect human development.

Maher also brought up Kurzweil’s penchant for taking supplements. “You look good, Ray!” Maher said as Kurzweil took the stage. “Are you still having 200 pills a day?”

“I’m down to 70,” Kurzweil replied.

Kurzweil was relatively optimistic about the possibilities of AI, though he did state outright that the technology has its limits. “It doesn’t create art the way a master artist would do,” he told Maher. He also explained the concept of hybrid intelligence, telling Maher, “It’ll be just like we are now, except we’ll be a lot more intelligent than we were before.”

At this point, Maher grew a bit more skeptical — especially when it came to the potential issues with nanotechnology and AI, such as a life-threatening “grey goo.” Kurzweil pointed out that nuclear weapons pose a threat that hasn’t yet come to pass. Maher, for his part, was more skeptical, noting that there isn’t an AI version of mutually assured destruction.

Maher also seemed skeptical when it came to the effects of AI on labor. “What about….jobs?” he asked Kurzweil. Kurzweil stated that technology has always had an effect on certain industries, and argued that new jobs would also be created. Despite Maher asking him for his predictions on what those jobs might be, Kurzweil didn’t address it, instead arguing that he didn’t see the matter in terms of humans versus AI.

Both here and in the episode’s final segment, Maher brought up dating and sex — and asked Kurzweil how AI would change the latter.  “It’ll become better,” Kurzweil said. 

“I’m not sure for everyone,” Maher replied.

Quoth Kurzweil: “You’ll have a much richer imagination.”

Maher brought up a few other concerns over AI as well, including the possibility that a life lived mostly virtually could be bad for human bodies. “I don’t even know if I want to live in this brave new world,” he said.

The interview closed on a note of optimism, though. “I hope I have you back on the show in 20 years,” Maher told Kurzweil. That’s one prediction for the 2044 season of Real Time With Bill Maher in the books, then.

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